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Whistleblower

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Best Refereeing Performance seen live
« on: Thu 14 May 2020 18:41 »
Apologies if we have had something like this before. I can't remember such but that's nothing much to go by these days ! By live, I mean a match where you were actually present.

It will surprise few of you to learn that for me it was a performance by the peerless Joe Worrall. It was at QPR in the early 1980s I think and I am honestly not sure about the opponent's. What was sure though is that there was some serious bad blood between the teams. It was like warfare out there. Crunching tackles and no quarter given. Joe, by his fitness, excellent reading of the game and man management skills managed to bring the game under control and into a great spectacle.

I have been privileged to meet many senior march officials, past and present, but I have never sadly ever met Joe Worrall who I consider to have been the best I have ever seen. However, hopefully we both have good years left to us so maybe one day I will.

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Re: Best Refereeing Performance seen live
« Reply #1 on: Thu 14 May 2020 20:22 »
I would agree with you Whistleblower. Joe was a class act. I remember seeing him i/c Newcastle v Nottingham Forest in an FA Cup 3rd round replay in Jan 1985. There was bad blood between the two clubs, partly arising from the forced replaying of the previous FA Cup tie between the two clubs in 1974 and of course Brian Clough was in charge at Nottingham Forest at the time. The atmosphere was hostile from the start but Joe took it all in his stride. After awarding Newcastle an early penalty which was missed but followed up with a goal from the resulting corner, Forest went down the other end and were awarded a penalty of their own which was scored. I waited for the reaction from the home fans but there was none to speak of. The rest was a master class from Forest and Joe and half the home fans had disappeared by the time Joe blew the final whistle. Joe was not a big bloke, but he was a man for the big occasion and an obvious choice for many of the trickier fixtures in Div 1 and below. Joe brought his distinctive style of refereeing to every game he was in charge of, and I would include in this Scarborough's first ever game in the FL Div 4 v Wolves in 1987 when I recall a fan fell through the roof of the stadium during the game. A great ref was Joe.
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Re: Best Refereeing Performance seen live
« Reply #2 on: Fri 15 May 2020 15:18 »
For those of us at a certain age it was almost everytime I saw Jim Finney.
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« Reply #3 on: Fri 15 May 2020 19:10 »
For those of us at a certain age it was almost everytime I saw Jim Finney.

Indeed I think that does make you one of our Senior Members sastley. Jim Finney's career was even before my time of following refereeing but I have read that a serious car accident cruelly robbed him of officiating at a major European Final to which he had been appointed, so the international authorities clearly rated him as highly as you do.

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Re: Best Refereeing Performance seen live
« Reply #4 on: Sat 16 May 2020 07:48 »
Difficult to assess, some of the best refereeing performances are by the referees that you haven't noticed throughout the game?
Do you judge a 'best' performance on the amount of activity within the game and how that that had been dealt with, which in some cases may have been initiated by the official in the first place?
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« Reply #5 on: Sat 16 May 2020 10:26 »
Difficult to assess, some of the best refereeing performances are by the referees that you haven't noticed throughout the game?
Do you judge a 'best' performance on the amount of activity within the game and how that that had been dealt with, which in some cases may have been initiated by the official in the first place?

I guess you employ your own criteria. This is a purely subjective exercise, I leave the objectivity to others who are better qualified to decide.

In all walks of life in which I have been involved I have come across individuals who attract from me the description of greatness. It's probably mostly an intuitive thing and a working out of what I deem to be important and worthy of praise in any particular context.

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« Reply #6 on: Sat 16 May 2020 11:30 »
Whistleblower was able to set his choice convincingly in the context of a potentially difficult situation handled in masterful fashion. My memory, not to mention lack of qualifications, precludes me from offering a "best" performance. The one that left the greatest impression, however, came in a run-of-the-mill match at Ewood Park in the early seventies. There were no particular incidents as far as I recall, but the referee seemed somehow to bring a different dimension to refereeing. The official in question was Peter Reeves.

Similarly, some years earlier, Rugby League refereeing had changed dramatically with the arrival on the scene of the peerless Fred Lindop, whose work over the next couple of decades was to prove immaculate.

In recent years the refereeing which impressed the most - among very many possibilities - came in a Regionalliga match at Elversberg. The referee was Michael Kempter, some time after his fall from grace. It was not a particularly testing match for someone who had achieved (and lost) FIFA listing and was handled athletically but in a routine German manner, with several yellow cards. What impressed, however, was the way that these were accepted by the players and the way he maintained excellent relations throughout. He would surely have been one of Europe's top referees if his career had continued.

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Re: Best Refereeing Performance seen live
« Reply #7 on: Sat 16 May 2020 13:07 »
Difficult to assess, some of the best refereeing performances are by the referees that you haven't noticed throughout the game?
Do you judge a 'best' performance on the amount of activity within the game and how that that had been dealt with, which in some cases may have been initiated by the official in the first place?


I guess you employ your own criteria. This is a purely subjective exercise, I leave the objectivity to others who are better qualified to decide.

In all walks of life in which I have been involved I have come across individuals who attract from me the description of greatness. It's probably mostly an intuitive thing and a working out of what I deem to be important and worthy of praise in any particular context.


True, but I only make the point that there are many officials not mentioned on here either way because they never have a match with incident that is worthy of comment.  If presented with similar circumstances, they may have reacted in exactly the same way as the 'greats' or of those 'vilified'. 


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« Last Edit: Sat 16 May 2020 17:06 by bmb »
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Re: Best Refereeing Performance seen live
« Reply #8 on: Sun 17 May 2020 17:03 »
I think Graham Poll Mike Dean and Alan Wiley have had many masterclass performances in big games that could easily have spilled over and dare I say it Mike Riley ( I think it was ) produced  a masterclass on rabbit in headlights performance when Rooney got away with murder against Arsenal
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« Reply #9 on: Mon 18 May 2020 08:17 »
Simply watch jack taylor in the 1974 World Cup final - two penalties, perfectly positioned, no word of dissent. I know it was a different era, but it showed confidence and correctness cannot be beaten.

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« Reply #10 on: Mon 18 May 2020 10:05 »
I remember too the Van Der Ende performance. 

If i remember the British Press had stirred things up, saying beforehand that Van Der Ende was likely to favour Italy because, of all things, he liked pasta and Italian restaurants.

As already said,  one of the best i can remember.  Great hair streak too,  and a shoe in for any Catherine Cookson fans!

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Re: Best Refereeing Performance seen live
« Reply #11 on: Mon 18 May 2020 15:21 »
Easy one: 1999. Champions league final. Collina

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« Reply #12 on: Tue 19 May 2020 02:23 »
For me it was 1993 Kim Milton Nielsen when he refereed at the World Youth Cup in Sydney.
On tv it was Jan 1994 Phil Don refereeing MUFC vs LFC
Both games were a masterclass

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« Reply #13 on: Sat 23 May 2020 11:00 »
I though Clattenburg and his performance in the Chelsea V Spurs game was a masterclass.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42219327
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« Reply #14 on: Sat 23 May 2020 12:55 »
I though Clattenburg and his performance in the Chelsea V Spurs game was a masterclass.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42219327

Are you joking?? He missed at least 4 if not more clear red cards. He himself has admitted he was far too lenient! He let it get out of control
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