Author Topic: Anthony Taylor Man United v Chelsea (Read 850 times)

DublinRef · « **on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:25 »

From what I have seen (I missed the penalty) Anthony Taylor has done very well today. I really wish however that, after correctly cautioning Ronaldo for dissent, he had swiftly issued a second yellow and red for the sarcastic clapping of the initial yellow. A gesture that I personally find utterly disrespectful and I think is one of the clearest examples of dissent by action. While I cannot be critical of Taylor for not giving a SYC as I've no doubt the PGMOL do not want a yellow here, it is a shame that officials yet again must allow themselves to be disrespected and they authority degraded.

A lot of YCs here in the last few minutes, all look correct to my eye. Taylor's positioning is, as always, exemplary.

TheThingFromLewes · « **Reply #1 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:32 »

A rare blooper from Nunn late on, a clear offside not flagged and Tuchel went potty on the touchline earning a card. I dread to think what would’ve happened had Man U scored from the resulting corner as VAR couldn’t come in as play had been restarted.

As for a Ronaldo, he is a disgrace with his protestations. A red would have been a satisfactory sanction for his petulance.

Leggy · « **Reply #2 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:44 »

Quote from: DublinRef on Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:25

From what I have seen (I missed the penalty) Anthony Taylor has done very well today. I really wish however that, after correctly cautioning Ronaldo for dissent, he had swiftly issued a second yellow and red for the sarcastic clapping of the initial yellow. A gesture that I personally find utterly disrespectful and I think is one of the clearest examples of dissent by action. While I cannot be critical of Taylor for not giving a SYC as I've no doubt the PGMOL do not want a yellow here, it is a shame that officials yet again must allow themselves to be disrespected and they authority degraded.

A lot of YCs here in the last few minutes, all look correct to my eye. Taylor's positioning is, as always, exemplary.

100% agree, but - as you noted - AT is doing what his employers want him to do. He would do the game a great service if he simply applied the Laws as he saw them, but he would soon be out of work. Such is the conflict of interest that applies to the PGMOL.

bmb · « **Reply #3 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 19:39 »

Quote from: Leggy on Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:44

Quote from: DublinRef on Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:25
From what I have seen (I missed the penalty) Anthony Taylor has done very well today. I really wish however that, after correctly cautioning Ronaldo for dissent, he had swiftly issued a second yellow and red for the sarcastic clapping of the initial yellow. A gesture that I personally find utterly disrespectful and I think is one of the clearest examples of dissent by action. While I cannot be critical of Taylor for not giving a SYC as I've no doubt the PGMOL do not want a yellow here, it is a shame that officials yet again must allow themselves to be disrespected and they authority degraded.

A lot of YCs here in the last few minutes, all look correct to my eye. Taylor's positioning is, as always, exemplary.

100% agree, but - as you noted - AT is doing what his employers want him to do. He would do the game a great service if he simply applied the Laws as he saw them, but he would soon be out of work. Such is the conflict of interest that applies to the PGMOL.

It must be so demoralising to know that there is an available sanction within the LOTG that you are effectively prevented from using because of directives from higher up the food chain.

ajb95 · « **Reply #4 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 19:59 »

Never totally convinced. 7 yellows in a game that wasn’t that dirty. I think he lost control a bit towards the end

DublinRef · « **Reply #5 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 20:13 »

Quote from: bmb on Sun 28 Nov 2021 19:39

Quote from: Leggy on Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:44
Quote from: DublinRef on Sun 28 Nov 2021 18:25
From what I have seen (I missed the penalty) Anthony Taylor has done very well today. I really wish however that, after correctly cautioning Ronaldo for dissent, he had swiftly issued a second yellow and red for the sarcastic clapping of the initial yellow. A gesture that I personally find utterly disrespectful and I think is one of the clearest examples of dissent by action. While I cannot be critical of Taylor for not giving a SYC as I've no doubt the PGMOL do not want a yellow here, it is a shame that officials yet again must allow themselves to be disrespected and they authority degraded.

A lot of YCs here in the last few minutes, all look correct to my eye. Taylor's positioning is, as always, exemplary.

100% agree, but - as you noted - AT is doing what his employers want him to do. He would do the game a great service if he simply applied the Laws as he saw them, but he would soon be out of work. Such is the conflict of interest that applies to the PGMOL.

It must be so demoralising to know that there is an available sanction within the LOTG that you are effectively prevented from using because of directives from higher up the food chain.

Absolutely - and look at how Michael Salisbury was criticised for his control yesterday, must be even harder making your debut when you feel your hands are tied slightly with regards to the sanctions you can use.

Dumbo · « **Reply #6 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 20:31 »

Quote from: ajb95 on Sun 28 Nov 2021 19:59

Never totally convinced. 7 yellows in a game that wasn’t that dirty. I think he lost control a bit towards the end

I second this, foul detection just random. 2 identical fouls back to back, one given one not.

Between him, the 4th official and far side assistant someone should've been able to tell Ronaldo was offside. To give the Chelsea manager a yellow card just adds insult to injury.

A typical Taylor performance, random and the yellow cards increase as the game goes on for 1st time offender.

Hendo · « **Reply #7 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 20:40 »

Did anyone else notice how Ronaldo walked off at end without shaking hands with anyone. Petulant, spoilt, disgraceful, snarling, only in it for himself.
And Fernandes once again proving what a whinging, horrible little individual he is and totally anonymous when up against a decent team.
As for Taylor - for me the usual, overrated performance.

Ref Fan · « **Reply #8 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 21:46 »

Quote from: ajb95 on Sun 28 Nov 2021 19:59

Never totally convinced. 7 yellows in a game that wasn’t that dirty. I think he lost control a bit towards the end

Wasn't it 8 YCs with Tuchel or did I just lose count? I tend to agree it wasn't a game in which you'd expect that many cards, but on the other hand it would be hard to argue that any were totally wrong. In fact, ironically, I thought another Chelsea player should have been cautioned for a pull-back similar to McTominay's and Rashford's who were both carded. I thought he was reasonable overall. He didn't appear to try and 'manage' the game so I can only assume that was his game plan from the beginning. I couldn't help wondering how Marriner or even Oliver would have approached that game.

Correction: Apologies. Rashford's YC was not for a pull-back of course but for a poor challenge.

Wollongong Ref · « **Reply #9 on:** Sun 28 Nov 2021 22:05 »

When KMN gave Rooney the 2nd YC and RC for his clapping, I guess like me we all hoped that incident would embolden referees to to take action and warn players to not demonstrate disrespect. Alas we were wrong.

Arbitre anglais · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue 30 Nov 2021 16:58 »

Can only be a SG1 thing because UEFA expect this to be dealt with firmly - must be a nightmare navigating two different ‘bosses’.

For all his criticism, this started with Hackett always talking about ‘managing’ situations when what he meant was ‘ignore’ them. We’re all for managing games according to the feel on the day where there are options, but some things should be just mandatory and expected, and this is one of them. Don’t want a cheap 2YC, then don’t do it.

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