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Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 13:06 »
Obligatory penalty to spurs in the NLD.

Good decision though, stonewall penalty. Taylor been good so far.

Couple of tight offside calls for Lee Betts. Looks like one wright one wrong.
« Last Edit: Sat 01 Oct 2022 13:10 by jacksamuel21 »

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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #1 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 13:28 »
Obligatory penalty to spurs in the NLD.

Good decision though, stonewall penalty. Taylor been good so far.

Couple of tight offside calls for Lee Betts. Looks like one wright one wrong.

Yep obligatory but can't moan against it, just Gabriel being c  r  a   p    again.

Good first half from Taylor and team, hope that continues in the second half

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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #2 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 14:10 »
Red card for Emerson.

Studs do make contact with side of shin but there is zero force. Totally wrong decision from Taylor who was conned by Martinelli preventing to be injured.

I think Jarred should have intervened.

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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #3 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 14:16 »
Correct RC for me
Endangered safety of player
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #4 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 14:23 »
Never overturning that red card decision in a million years
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #5 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 14:27 »
Red card for Emerson.

Studs do make contact with side of shin but there is zero force. Totally wrong decision from Taylor who was conned by Martinelli preventing to be injured.

I think Jarred should have intervened.

I'm afraid you don't understand the current laws, that is a nailed on red card.  He's got no right to be making contact that high up the leg, even more so when the ball was nowhere near.
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #6 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 15:07 »
Red card for Emerson.

Studs do make contact with side of shin but there is zero force. Totally wrong decision from Taylor who was conned by Martinelli preventing to be injured.

I think Jarred should have intervened.

I'm afraid you don't understand the current laws, that is a nailed on red card.  He's got no right to be making contact that high up the leg, even more so when the ball was nowhere near.

No force at all

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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #7 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 15:28 »
All of the commentators and pundits, including Spurs fans and ex-players, and ex-defenders, agreed it was a red card.

Feel you are very much in the minority view here.
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #8 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 15:56 »
Needless, very poor challenge, "naughty" even.
Definite RC, AT took his time, likely conversation with asst. Well done
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #9 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 16:00 »
Thought Taylor and team were excellent today. Got the two KMIs spot on in real time. A good day’s work.
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #10 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 22:50 »
I know it was a different referee but what is the difference between the red card for Emerson today and the tackle in this photo which was only a yellow?

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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #11 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 23:00 »
I know it was a different referee but what is the difference between the red card for Emerson today and the tackle in this photo which was only a yellow?

Both should be red but Emerson's was a deliberate attempt to hurt his opponent in a nothing area of the FoP, not at all challenging for the ball. There is more to assessing SFP than point of contact or "if it isn't going to brake his leg then a booking is enough", I would politely suggest to jacksamuel21.
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #12 on: Sat 01 Oct 2022 23:06 »
The fact that Emerson only meant to foul Martinelli means it should be a red. However consistency wise it shouldn’t be a red.

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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #13 on: Sun 02 Oct 2022 01:46 »
When I saw it at the time it looked like a foul and nothing else, when I saw the replay I thought there was a bit more to it and expected Taylor to brandish the yellow; I can see why he gave red and it's one I wouldn't want VAR to overturn because it should be the perception and management of the referee on the pitch BUT with the benefit of seeing it back, I think the lack of force for me would have made it yellow.
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Re: Anthony Taylor- Arsenal vs Spurs
« Reply #14 on: Mon 03 Oct 2022 12:45 »
When I saw it at the time it looked like a foul and nothing else, when I saw the replay I thought there was a bit more to it and expected Taylor to brandish the yellow; I can see why he gave red and it's one I wouldn't want VAR to overturn because it should be the perception and management of the referee on the pitch BUT with the benefit of seeing it back, I think the lack of force for me would have made it yellow.

I agree with this.  Having watched it numerous times, I keep expecting to see something I'd missed.  For example, if the contact had continued as a rake down the leg with studs, a RC would be absolutely correct.  In several incidents this season, a YC has been considered the right decision because of a lack of excessive force, not endangering an opponent, irrespective of whether it was an attempt for the ball & just bad timing.  On RefWatch, the van Dyke challenge in the Merseyside derby was referred to.  I agree this incident with Emerson could be considered malicious as well as high contact because there was no chance of getting the ball but did it really tick any boxes for excessive force or dangerous? Not a nice foul but does that make it a RC?

Once a straight RC was shown (supported by Dermot but not Stephen Warnock on RefWatch by the way), I didn't expect VAR to intervene.  Equally, I'd have been surprised had they done so had the colour only been yellow.  I do feel there is a question of consistency on these sort of fouls and challenges.

Overall though, I thought Anthony Taylor handled the game very well.