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Author Topic: Andre Marriner - LCFC v CFC  (Read 1487 times)

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Re: Andre Marriner - LCFC v CFC
« Reply #15 on: Mon 13 Mar 2023 17:02 »
Consistency is unattainable all the time that the vast majority of decisions remain subjective, imo. A lenient referee who referees more within the spirit of the LOTG is always going to be lenient, a strict 100% by the book referee is always going to be strict and as such their decisions will be different on the exact same situation as their subjectivity will be different. No 2 incidents are ever exactly the same, despite a high degree of similarity, the angle the ball comes in, the speed of the players or ball, the angle a tackle comes in from, other players proximity, the point of contact on the ball or other player, the force of the contact on the ball or player, the proximity of the referee, the angle of view the referee has and how much if at all their view is obscured are just some of the factors that will make any given scenario, that at first glance appears the same as another one, a slightly unique difference from each other and can be the difference between one being given and the other not given. I believe the best we can realistically hope for in terms of consistency is that every referee is consistent in their decision making across a game and deal with similar incidents in a similar manner.

As to VAR I seem to recall we had many conversations when it was first spoken of about how a subjective decision made by the on field referee can/will be reviewed by a different referee who may or may not have a different tolerance level and their decision to intervene or not is going to be based on their subjectivity. We are now seeing how it does (or does not) work! If I say I'm happy that was just a coming together and that is my subjective opinion of an incident, but you say well imo it was reckless and that is your subjective opinion then how can either of us say well I am right and you are wrong just because we have a difference in tolerance levels, which directly impacts our subjectivity?

I think a lot of the issue people have is the fact that two very similar looking tackles (or one worse than another) is judged less harshly than a decision the day before by the same official.

Agree. The thing there though is we, as referees or former referees, all look at any given incident through the eyes of our own subjectivity  and tolerance levels and agree/disagree with a decision accordingly. Obviously there are some decisions that are so blatant that whatever your tolerance level we will agree on a red or yellow but there are plenty of decisions we won't agree on due to our own perceptions, which always give cause for discussion!
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