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Re: After the Euros
« Reply #1 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 12:38 »
However, the Premier League has committed to using fatter lines when calculating offside decisions using the VAR, which should mean that the more marginal calls will now go in the attacker's favour.

In addition, the final outcome of the decision will be shown but the process of drawing the offside lines will no longer be seen by broadcasters and TV viewers.


I fail to see how less transparency will lead to more accurate decisions and less controversy.

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Re: After the Euros
« Reply #2 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 14:06 »
It will be interesting to see if there are any other changes in approach to VAR policy given Rosetti's comments (although not specifically directed at the PL) according to the DM.

Now, the Premier League has been challenged by Rosetti, the tournament's head of referees, to adopt a similar 'light-touch' approach, to avoid over analysis and unnecessary interventions.

The stats in that article give the number of reviews, but also the number of interventions, both direct and those which led to on field decisions being changed after an OFR, and which Rosetti claimed were all correct.  Apparently he did concede there were 2 incidents when VAR might have intervened but didn't without specifying which.  It seems the Sterling penalty v Denmark and the Jorginho YC for the foul on Grealish were judged correct.

Looking back to 2020/21 PL season, the complaints about VAR focused on marginal offside decisions despite being correct with the thin lines. Let's see if thicker lines will prove to favour the attackers even if we don't see the evidence!

The other debates were often about 'soft' penalties which VAR reviewed but invariably didn't intervene.  I guess the question here is whether our referees will be more reluctant to award soft penalties and also if they will allow more contact on the field without blowing up for fouls too readily. And to be more aware of players going down too easily and feigning injury. 
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Re: After the Euros
« Reply #3 on: Fri 16 Jul 2021 16:23 »
I doubt it. The PL seem to think they are above everything else and that the rules that apply to every single domestic league in Europe do not actually apply to them! They make their own rules up as they go along, as they have shown season after season.

Any changes they do make will last about 5 mins before the shareholders complain about them & they get changed again.

I have zero faith in the current PL leadership, refereeing or otherwise.
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Re: After the Euros
« Reply #5 on: Sat 17 Jul 2021 11:48 »
Unfortunately I can't read articles from The Daily Fail, and certain other publications as I have an ad blocker installed. Considering that I will not be removing it is there any other way to see this interesting content?
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Re: After the Euros
« Reply #6 on: Wed 28 Jul 2021 15:15 »
Quite an interesting article about the use of VAR at the Euros with comments by Rosetti. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9791489/VAR-improve-Euro-2020-showed-works-light-touch.html

And look who got to Wembley after all!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9791889/Premier-League-ref-Oliver-belts-Freed-Desire-Wembley-makes-fan.html
However, the Premier League has committed to using fatter lines when calculating offside decisions using the VAR, which should mean that the more marginal calls will now go in the attacker's favour.

In addition, the final outcome of the decision will be shown but the process of drawing the offside lines will no longer be seen by broadcasters and TV viewers.


I fail to see how less transparency will lead to more accurate decisions and less controversy.
As far as I'm aware, the PL is the only league that showed them drawing the lines on, in an attempt to provide more transparency. I think this was right intention but it never really worked because most people didn't understand process and media/fans would circulate incomplete images before they had finished drawing lines on and claim final decision was wrong.

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Re: After the Euros
« Reply #7 on: Wed 28 Jul 2021 15:28 »
Unfortunately I can't read articles from The Daily Fail

There are many people who might question the first two letters of that phrase.
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