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Author Topic: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton  (Read 1089 times)

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A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« on: Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:37 »
I'm surprised that there isn't a thread for this game, where the VAR penalty decision to Brighton was more influential in the match outcome than David Silva's offside goal being allowed in Man City v Villa.

It seems from brief highlights that the contact on Connolly leading to the penalty was relatively minimal and it seemed a very harsh decision from Mr Mason.

I haven't seen full highlights, so don't know if the incident where Richarlison appeared to be tugged in the box was determined by Mr Mason. That seemed to be at least as much of a penalty as the one given.

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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #1 on: Sun 27 Oct 2019 12:50 »
In my view, the 2 'penalty' incidents in this game just raise even more questions about how VAR is being used.

Goals on Sunday did an interesting comparison of the 2 main incidents last week when referees failed to give clear penalties and were backed up by VAR, with that awarded to Brighton yesterday.  I just don't see how that remotely came into the category of clear and obvious.  It was even more
absurd considering VAR didn't intervene when Richarlison was hauled down in the penalty area earlier in the half.

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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #2 on: Sun 27 Oct 2019 14:30 »
Usual rubbish from Mason. There is some serious dead wood in SG1 at the moment and Riley (despite being incompetent himself) needs to sort this out with fresh blood who quite frankly should be there, instead of some of the current dross in the top group.
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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #3 on: Sun 27 Oct 2019 15:45 »
I must be in the minority as I thought VAR intervention there was spot on. Without his foot being trodden as he headed towards the ball he would have got to it. It was clear the foot trod on his opponent, causing a trip.
But I also believe Everton should have had a penalty.
(Playing Devils advocate would Mason have intervened had it been Atkinson, Dean et al in the middle rather than the "rookie")
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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #4 on: Sun 27 Oct 2019 15:48 »
I couldn’t agree with you more RCG! Whilst I think a penalty was the correct decision, it certainly was out of step with incidents over previous weeks. Also, in my opinion, it is highly unlikely that it would’ve been awarded had a more senior PL referee had been in the middle!

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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #5 on: Sun 27 Oct 2019 20:57 »
I couldn’t agree with you more RCG! Whilst I think a penalty was the correct decision, it certainly was out of step with incidents over previous weeks. Also, in my opinion, it is highly unlikely that it would’ve been awarded had a more senior PL referee had been in the middle!
Jarred Gillet was pretty happy to overturn Martin Atkinson At the emirates.

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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #6 on: Sun 27 Oct 2019 22:09 »
Richarlison was leaning into the Brighton defender and it didn’t look like a foul.

However we have categoric proof that the Brighton penalty was wrong. That proven winner of nothing ever who is currently taking a sabbatical because he’s not in demand, Alan Pardew, has decreed that anyone who’s ever played football knows that’s not a penalty.

Why does the media allow people like Pardew the oxygen of publicity unchallenged. My reply to him would be anyone who’s ever refereed (which you haven’t) knows it’s a penalty. Looking at the ball and intent, which he used to justify his ignorance, are irrelevant. The defender made contact with the attacker and impeded his progress. What’s to discuss?

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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #7 on: Mon 28 Oct 2019 02:16 »
I have not seen the incidents. But in Australia where we are 3 or so seasons down the track we saw a spike in the number of penalties being given for minor offences like what is being described.
One thing we FFA did was use VAR on as many preseason games a possible between our first and second season and really strictly interpret the LOTG in the Penalty area. I remember seeing a pen given in Wellington vs a touring Chinese team for a minor hold on a player who was not getting the ball and who had no chance to get it. You will need to give the VAR 18 months or so for everyone to 'get it'.

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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #8 on: Sat 09 Nov 2019 10:12 »
Brighton penalty following VAR review now accepted as incorrect, see VAR thread.

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Re: A Madley/L Mason Brighton v Everton
« Reply #9 on: Sat 09 Nov 2019 12:09 »
Usual rubbish from Mason. There is some serious dead wood in SG1 at the moment and Riley (despite being incompetent himself) needs to sort this out with fresh blood who quite frankly should be there, instead of some of the current dross in the top group.

The trouble is that many of the posters on RTR say that there is much dead wood in SG2 and other posters who say there is much dead wood in Leagues 1 and 2. The example of Attwell is still fresh in their minds. hey are very loathe to let thatr happen to a very promising official by too early promotion into the cauldron of the Premier League where the pressure on match officials is so much greater. I am sure that in time Rob Jones, Darren England and John Brooks will get there but they won't risk another Attwelll scenario happeneing to them. One from SG2 who might be ready for the step up now, imo is Darren Bond and possibly Tim Robinson
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