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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #135 on: Thu 30 Jan 2020 23:44 »
Aliji - 2 match ban, Bacsa, Simovic, Van Nieff - 1 match ban. The decision from the disciplinary committee this week. 

I like how we do it in Hungary. It's not a set ban, each incident gets reviewed by the disciplinary committee on either Tuesday or Thursday and the ban given reflects the seriousness of the incident. No automatic 3 match ban for violent conduct - a more minor touching of heads in a square up for example might get a red but only 1 match ban, a professional foul that was dreadful & a potential leg breaker/career ender could end up with 3/4+ game ban. It always tends to be a 1 match ban for a YYR though.
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #136 on: Fri 31 Jan 2020 16:02 »
Kisvárda Master Good v Ferencváros
2020.02.01 - 17:00
Kisvárda, Kisvárdai Várkerti Stadion
Referee: Erdős József
4O: Márkus Tamás
AR: Buzás Balázs, Csatári Tibor
AAR: Pillók Ádám, Radványi Ádám

Budapest Honvéd v Mezőkövesd Zsóry
2020.02.01 - 17:00
Budapest, Új Hidegkuti Nándor Stadion
Referee: Iványi Zoltán
4O: Lémon Oszkár
AR: Szalai Balázs, Horváth Róbert
AAR: Bogár Gergő, Molnár Attila

DVTK v Kaposvári Rákóczi  ;D
2020.02.01 - 17:00
Miskolc, DVTK Stadion
Referee: Solymosi Péter
4O: Szalai Dániel
AR: Albert István, Becséri Gergely
AAR: Vad II. István, Takács János

Paks v ZTE
2020.02.01 - 17:00
Paks, Paksi Fc Stadion
Referee: Bognár Tamás
4O: Medovarszki János
AR: Kóbor Péter, Garai Péter
AAR: Csonka Bence, Kulcsár Katalin

Puskás Akadémia v DVSC
2020.02.01 - 17:00
Felcsút, Puskás Akadémia Pancho Aréna
Referee: Berke Balázs
4O: Bornemissza Norbert
AR: Tóth II. Vencel, Georgiou Theodoros
AAR: Farkas Ádám, Szilasi Szabolcs

Újpest v Mol Fehérvár
2020.02.01 - 19:30
Budapest, Szusza Ferenc Stadion
Referee: Pintér Csaba
4O: Huszár Balázs
AR: Vígh-Tarsonyi Gergő, Szécsényi István
AAR: Karakó Ferenc, Lovas László
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #137 on: Mon 03 Feb 2020 16:43 »
An extra #SolymosiWatch for Missy bmb this week.  I've obviously been excused from the naughty step! On my Lilák as well  ;D

Mezőkövesd Zsóry v Újpest
2020.02.04 - 20:00
Mezőkövesd, Mezőkövesd Városi Stadion
Referee: Pillók Ádám
4O: Becséri Gergely
AR: Georgiou Theodoros, Szalai Dániel
AAR: Solymosi Péter, Takács János

DVSC v Mol Fehérvár
2020.02.05 - 18:00
Debrecen, Debreceni Nagyerdei Stadion
Referee: Bogár Gergő
4O: Csatári Tibor
AR: Albert István, Buzás Balázs
AAR: Erdős József, Radványi Ádám

ZTE v Kisvárda Master Good
2020.02.05 - 18:00
Zalaegerszeg, Zalaegerszegi Városi Stadion (Zte Aréna)
Referee: Andó-Szabó Sándor
4O: Horváth Róbert
AR: Szalai Balázs, Szécsényi István
AAR: Vad II. István, Kulcsár Katalin

Kaposvári Rákóczi v Paks
2020.02.05 - 18:00
Kaposvár, Kaposvári Rákóczi Stadion
Referee: Karakó Ferenc
4O: Bornemissza Norbert
AR: Lémon Oszkár, Huszár Balázs
AAR: Iványi Zoltán, Zierkelbach Péter

Puskás Akadémia V DVTK
2020.02.05 - 18:00
Felcsút, Puskás Akadémia Pancho Aréna
Referee: Farkas Ádám
4O: Medovarszki János
AR: Kóbor Péter, Garai Péter
AAR: Takács János, Ducsai József

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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #138 on: Tue 04 Feb 2020 19:54 »
An extra #SolymosiWatch for Missy bmb this week.  I've obviously been excused from the naughty step! On my Lilák as well  ;D

Mezőkövesd Zsóry v Újpest
2020.02.04 - 20:00
Mezőkövesd, Mezőkövesd Városi Stadion
Referee: Pillók Ádám
4O: Becséri Gergely
AR: Georgiou Theodoros, Szalai Dániel
AAR: Solymosi Péter, Takács János


I hope Mr Pillók gets dropped for the rest of the season! He has put the lovely Mr Solymosi in y****w and I am not happy.

Sort it out Mr Puhl - way too much y****w this season so far including on MY teams and MY favourite referee... Not good enough!

Lilák 1-0 up though in better news!
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #139 on: Tue 04 Feb 2020 20:12 »
I do get an extra #SolymosiWatch tomorrow - hope Mr Pintér does better than Mr Pillók!

Ferencváros v Budapest Honvéd
2020.02.05 - 19:30
Budapest, Groupama Aréna
Referee: Pintér Csaba
4O: Márkus Tamás
AR: Tóth II. Vencel, Vígh-Tarsonyi Gergő
AAR: Solymosi Péter, Lovas László
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #140 on: Wed 05 Feb 2020 08:00 »
BMB, if you were to compare the Hungarian refs to English ones, who would they closely resemble, (in terms of refereeing not looks 😉)

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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #141 on: Wed 05 Feb 2020 11:08 »
BMB, if you were to compare the Hungarian refs to English ones, who would they closely resemble, (in terms of refereeing not looks 😉)

Great question ajb

I suspect most on here will have seen Vad & Bognár at some point on a European game but not really any of the others.

Tamás Bognár - maybe Martin Atkinson. Very steady, consistent, reliable, good decision making, fitness and positioning excellent and adapts well between domestic games & Europe.
István Vad - perhaps how many of this board seem to perceive Clatts in terms of a very cocky, arrogant persona on the pitch (and off of it by all accounts - Vad not Clatts, who is lovely). That would be where any potential similarity ends though. He's very fit, fittest ref we have, positioning is good but he is very inconsistent, decision making all to often is erratic. Too many errors, big & small - more Mason than Clatts in that regard!
Ádám Farkas - maybe a young Andre Marriner. Fitness is good, positioning decent. Mainly steady & reliable but can be too over lenient.  Works well in Europe but not so well in the NBI. They are used to a very strict application of the LOTG & Farkas often confuses players by waving play on for things everyone else would give a foul for. He's not afraid of making a decision but sometimes needs to be more proactive in domestic games.
Balázs Berke - Clatts. Confident, a bit cocky at times, a bit of a rebel, does what is right not necessarily what he has been told! Fitness is up there with Vad's, positioning excellent, knowledge and application of the LOTG superb, becoming very consistent but when he does **** up he will do so in spectacular fashion!
Ferenc Karakó - the young Stuart Attwell. Showed a huge amount of promise & there is no doubt there is an excellent referee inside of him somewhere but he was promoted too soon, pushed too far too soon & it has had a very detrimental effect on him and his development. He's either too lenient or too strict - no balance. There is at least 1 bad game changing error in virtually every game. Shame really because when he does have a good game he is excellent, sadly those games come just 1 in 10!
Péter Solymosi - Scott Mathieson. The ultimate safe, steady, reliable pair of hands. Great rapport with players, calm, relaxed, fitness decent, positioning decent, man management superb, high consistency, great use of the advantage & uses the 2 handed signal still - good man. Not spectacular, very underrated and 99.9% of the time puts in a decent performance. Very rare bad errors.
Zoltán Iványi - probably as with Péter Solymosi, a Scott Mathieson type referee & similar attributes. He is probably our closest in terms of any flamboyance. He is also the only one who would ever get away with doing so. Whereas Péter is perhaps quieter and less demonstrative, if a player is having a tantrum, Iványi will do an exaggerated shrug of the shoulders or throw his arms in the air, and the players will always end up laughing. He has the personality and respect of the players to carry it off. King of the advantages although Péter is challenging him well there this season!
Csaba Pintér/Sándor Andó-Szabó are probably Graham Scott types - steady, reliable more often than not, just get on with it, consistent in the main but not spectacular.
József Erdős - not sure who I would compare him to! For a long while he was a very frustrating referee, he was overweight and unfit and it affected his ability to referee.  He has worked really hard though to lose weight and get his fitness sorted and now he can keep up with play his positioning is decent & there is a good consistency in his decision making. He can still have his erratic moments but over the past 2-3 seasons has grown from a complete car crash of a referee into a safe pair of hands. That has been good to watch actually. In terms of the hard work he has put in to keep improving himself maybe a 2nd time around Stuart Attwell. He never gave up, kept working hard & it has paid off for him finally.
Ádám Pillók is on the naughty step and I refuse to discuss him right now! He made Péter wear yellow last night so now is not a good time! I'm in a very unforgiving mindset towards him right now...
Gergő Bogár - I recently described him as the Hungarian Michael Oliver. This kid is such an exciting prospect. He's been on the NBI for 2 seasons now & referees with that same maturity Oliver does. His consistency is there, good fitness, reliable decision making more often than not. Just needs to grow a bit in self confidence and man management.
Bence Csonka - I would put him with Gergő Bogár as a young Michael Oliver. He's around 2 years behind Bogár in developmental terms but there is something very special about him. He's only 1st season NBI and has a way to go but I'd put him down as a FL Oliver and Bogár as a PL Oliver at the moment.

Obviously just my opinions on them!
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #142 on: Wed 05 Feb 2020 17:17 »
BMB, if you were to compare the Hungarian refs to English ones, who would they closely resemble, (in terms of refereeing not looks 😉)

Great question ajb

I suspect most on here will have seen Vad & Bognár at some point on a European game but not really any of the others.

Tamás Bognár - maybe Martin Atkinson. Very steady, consistent, reliable, good decision making, fitness and positioning excellent and adapts well between domestic games & Europe.
István Vad - perhaps how many of this board seem to perceive Clatts in terms of a very cocky, arrogant persona on the pitch (and off of it by all accounts - Vad not Clatts, who is lovely). That would be where any potential similarity ends though. He's very fit, fittest ref we have, positioning is good but he is very inconsistent, decision making all to often is erratic. Too many errors, big & small - more Mason than Clatts in that regard!
Ádám Farkas - maybe a young Andre Marriner. Fitness is good, positioning decent. Mainly steady & reliable but can be too over lenient.  Works well in Europe but not so well in the NBI. They are used to a very strict application of the LOTG & Farkas often confuses players by waving play on for things everyone else would give a foul for. He's not afraid of making a decision but sometimes needs to be more proactive in domestic games.
Balázs Berke - Clatts. Confident, a bit cocky at times, a bit of a rebel, does what is right not necessarily what he has been told! Fitness is up there with Vad's, positioning excellent, knowledge and application of the LOTG superb, becoming very consistent but when he does **** up he will do so in spectacular fashion!
Ferenc Karakó - the young Stuart Attwell. Showed a huge amount of promise & there is no doubt there is an excellent referee inside of him somewhere but he was promoted too soon, pushed too far too soon & it has had a very detrimental effect on him and his development. He's either too lenient or too strict - no balance. There is at least 1 bad game changing error in virtually every game. Shame really because when he does have a good game he is excellent, sadly those games come just 1 in 10!
Péter Solymosi - Scott Mathieson. The ultimate safe, steady, reliable pair of hands. Great rapport with players, calm, relaxed, fitness decent, positioning decent, man management superb, high consistency, great use of the advantage & uses the 2 handed signal still - good man. Not spectacular, very underrated and 99.9% of the time puts in a decent performance. Very rare bad errors.
Zoltán Iványi - probably as with Péter Solymosi, a Scott Mathieson type referee & similar attributes. He is probably our closest in terms of any flamboyance. He is also the only one who would ever get away with doing so. Whereas Péter is perhaps quieter and less demonstrative, if a player is having a tantrum, Iványi will do an exaggerated shrug of the shoulders or throw his arms in the air, and the players will always end up laughing. He has the personality and respect of the players to carry it off. King of the advantages although Péter is challenging him well there this season!
Csaba Pintér/Sándor Andó-Szabó are probably Graham Scott types - steady, reliable more often than not, just get on with it, consistent in the main but not spectacular.
József Erdős - not sure who I would compare him to! For a long while he was a very frustrating referee, he was overweight and unfit and it affected his ability to referee.  He has worked really hard though to lose weight and get his fitness sorted and now he can keep up with play his positioning is decent & there is a good consistency in his decision making. He can still have his erratic moments but over the past 2-3 seasons has grown from a complete car crash of a referee into a safe pair of hands. That has been good to watch actually. In terms of the hard work he has put in to keep improving himself maybe a 2nd time around Stuart Attwell. He never gave up, kept working hard & it has paid off for him finally.
Ádám Pillók is on the naughty step and I refuse to discuss him right now! He made Péter wear yellow last night so now is not a good time! I'm in a very unforgiving mindset towards him right now...
Gergő Bogár - I recently described him as the Hungarian Michael Oliver. This kid is such an exciting prospect. He's been on the NBI for 2 seasons now & referees with that same maturity Oliver does. His consistency is there, good fitness, reliable decision making more often than not. Just needs to grow a bit in self confidence and man management.
Bence Csonka - I would put him with Gergő Bogár as a young Michael Oliver. He's around 2 years behind Bogár in developmental terms but there is something very special about him. He's only 1st season NBI and has a way to go but I'd put him down as a FL Oliver and Bogár as a PL Oliver at the moment.

Obviously just my opinions on them!

Great! Glad you didn’t compare any to moss or hooper! 😜

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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #143 on: Wed 05 Feb 2020 19:32 »

Great! Glad you didn’t compare any to moss or hooper! 😜


Forget what I said about Mr Pintér! He is ref on #SolymosiWatch tonight & has disgraced himself by wearing yellow.

The poor lovely Mr Solymosi forced into such vileness 2 days running, someone is in for major earache over this and yes Mr Puhl I am glaring at you!  >:(

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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #144 on: Fri 07 Feb 2020 12:12 »
The derby has been cancelled because whoever laid Lilák's new pitch "forgot" to weave the synthetic & real grass together or something along those lines & the pitch literally fell apart when it was played on. The Federation have declared our pitch unfit & we will now have to play our 'home' games 175km away until it is fixed & approved.   The derby is the best, hope it will be arranged for a date I will be there!
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #145 on: Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:33 »
MD20 #SolymosiWatch Game 295

Mol Fehérvár v Mezőkövesd Zsóry
2020.02.08 - 17:00
Székesfehérvár, Mol Aréna Sóstó
Referee: Solymosi Péter
4O: Lémon Oszkár
AR: Tóth II. Vencel, Kóbor Péter
AAR: Vad II. István, Ducsai József

Paksi v Puskás Akadémia
2020.02.08 - 17:00
Paks, Paksi Fc Stadion
Referee: Pintér Csaba
4O: Szalai Dániel
AR: Horváth Róbert, Király Krisztián
AAR: Takács János, Radványi Ádám

Kisvárda Master Good v Kaposvári Rákóczi
2020.02.08 - 17:00
Kisvárda, Kisvárdai Várkerti Stadion
Referee: Csonka Bence
4O: Szert Balázs
AR: Buzás Balázs, Medovarszki János
AAR: Berke Balázs, Bogár Gergő

Budapest Honvéd v ZTE
2020.02.08 - 17:00
Budapest, Új Hidegkuti Nándor Stadion
Referee: Erdős József
4O: Bornemissza Norbert
AR: Georgiou Theodoros, Huszár Balázs
AAR: Farkas Ádám, Zierkelbach Péter

DVTK v DVSC
2020.02.08 - 17:00
Miskolc, DVTK Stadion
Referee: Iványi Zoltán
4O: Szécsényi István
AR: Szalai Balázs, Vígh-Tarsonyi Gergő
AAR: Karakó Ferenc, Lovas László
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #146 on: Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:12 »
If Mr Puhl was wishing to set me off on a major rant - again then Mr Solymosi wearing yellow for the 3rd time in 5 days would certainly be enough to do it!

bmb is one very miffed lady right now & someone is in for an ear bashing! Be warned Mr Puhl...
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #147 on: Wed 12 Feb 2020 19:43 »
Another key match error for Karakó last night in the Újpest v Fehérvár Magyar Kupa match. He was the only NBI referee used this round, the rest of the games were refereed by NBII referees. 1st time I have seen Mihály Káprály who is doing the Honvéd game - happy with his performance so far. Anyway I digress - Karakó missed the ball over the line & Fehérvár should have had a goal. The game ended 0-0. The ball is in the goal keepers hands in the attached photo, Banai pushes it back out and it is cleared by the defenders. Róbert Horváth was AR that end. To be fair to both of them it was cleared in a split second and was very hard to determine in real time. Watching live I did say at the time that I thought the ball had gone over but wasn't sure and it is only with the benefit of watching replays that it is obvious. Whilst he has clearly got the call wrong I don't think there is anything that he could have done differently to get it right. He needed VAR or an AAR to help him out with it. No AAR in the cup games until round 10, which are the quarter finals.

There is a video here: http://www.csakfoci.hu/magyar-foci/magyar-kupa/ujpest-vidi-kupacsata-a-kaput-sem-nagyon-talaltak-el-de-lehet-hogy-golt-szereztek-video
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #148 on: Wed 12 Feb 2020 20:49 »
Mihály Káprály handled the post match brawl very well. Szekér went for Lanzafame & it all kicked off, players from both sides and coaches all joining in. Kálnoki-Kis was literally throwing punches at anyone & everyone, Jagodic touched heads with Lanzafame before trying to throw a punch or 2. Both Jagodic & Kálnoki-Kis given red cards, quite rightly. The only thing I think he should also have done was a yellow card for Szekér who started it all. Shameful behaviour from both teams & I suspect the disciplinary committee will be meeting tomorrow to review their conduct and both will be fined at the very least. They deserve any punishment coming their way.
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Re: NBI Appointments Season 19/20
« Reply #149 on: Thu 13 Feb 2020 14:56 »
NBII team has been fined 1 million forints after someone from the club went onto the pitch and threatened the referee post match! Converts to about Ł2500 BUT the average annual wage in Hungary is Ł7000 to put it into perspective. I love the disciplinary committee here.
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