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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #15 on: Tue 07 May 2019 20:21 »
The sad reality is that at least 2 of Madley, Jones and England won’t get a single play off game, yet they are head and shoulders above those appointed. Hopefully his outing at the Stadium of Light will be Woolmer’s swan song and he will gracefully leave the game as clearly his most recent injury has hampered his movement around the pitch.

As for the league 2 appointments, an excellent way for Matt Donohue to end his first season on the list - he must’ve had a fantastic season. Also a good game for John Busby after the recent praise he’s had on here. Might the match for Eddie Ilderton mark the end of his illustrious career with another ground ticket off? A great game to get following his recent injury troubles!

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #16 on: Tue 07 May 2019 21:02 »
I can’t believe what I’ve just read!!

Please someone tell me it’s April fools day and this is all just a sick joke!!

Woolmer and Ward’s appointments are a disgrace and completely backs up what I’ve said all season that the best referees rarely get promoted or the games they deserve. The whole system in this country is still diabolical when it’s meant to be much fairer and balanced and it knocks me sick!

God knows how there’s even been a single positive comment about John Busby either... Some people should really watch more games and do more research before posting complete dross without any evidence to back their comment up!

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #17 on: Tue 07 May 2019 21:16 »
People can only base their opinions on what they have seen and if Busby, for example, performed well on that day then that is the basis for their view.
Unfortunately we do not get to see the FL guys that often, unless we support a team in Lgue 1 or 2 so dont have a wealth of "insider" knowledge
Football is political, hopefully less so in this country, so appointments will always have some form of bias

On a separate note pleasing to see a number of first year referees involved in the play offs (before SG2 they would have had a few Championship games by now)

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #18 on: Tue 07 May 2019 23:21 »
Personally would have liked John Busby and Eddie Ilderton switched around for the Tranmere/Forest Green clashes. The only time I have seen Mr Busby in the middle was in the corresponding NL fixture, when his inexperience showed and he failed to clamp down enough on a cynical Forest Green side verging on football thuggery. While it would be interesting to see how he's developed as a referee, when even the lauded Dean Whitestone failed to control a Forest Green side well versed in the dark arts a couple of weeks ago, I'm not confident. As suggested,Eddie Ilderton may have the game at Forest Green to tick another ground off his list.

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #19 on: Wed 08 May 2019 02:12 »
My negative opinion of John Busby relates exactly to the reasons you weren’t impressed with him.

Extremely lenient and lacks authority. I saw him on the Charlton vs Accrington game this season and some of the disgraceful things the Accrington players did was quite shocking, hence why there were ugly scenes both during and after the game. His assistant bailed him out for the penalty but he allowed virtually every single player to confront and surround his assistant for well over a minute and didn’t even show one yellow card to a player and allowed the same at the final whistle.

His coach is Dermot Gallagher apparently, says it all then really.

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #20 on: Wed 08 May 2019 08:19 »
My negative opinion of John Busby relates exactly to the reasons you weren’t impressed with him.

Extremely lenient and lacks authority. I saw him on the Charlton vs Accrington game this season and some of the disgraceful things the Accrington players did was quite shocking, hence why there were ugly scenes both during and after the game. His assistant bailed him out for the penalty but he allowed virtually every single player to confront and surround his assistant for well over a minute and didn’t even show one yellow card to a player and allowed the same at the final whistle.

His coach is Dermot Gallagher apparently, says it all then really.

I saw him at Rochdale v Portsmouth in September and he was excellent.
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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #21 on: Wed 08 May 2019 09:12 »
My negative opinion of John Busby relates exactly to the reasons you weren’t impressed with him.

Extremely lenient and lacks authority. I saw him on the Charlton vs Accrington game this season and some of the disgraceful things the Accrington players did was quite shocking, hence why there were ugly scenes both during and after the game. His assistant bailed him out for the penalty but he allowed virtually every single player to confront and surround his assistant for well over a minute and didn’t even show one yellow card to a player and allowed the same at the final whistle.

His coach is Dermot Gallagher apparently, says it all then really.

I saw him at Rochdale v Portsmouth in September and he was excellent.


Mr. Busby had a bit of a shocker early in the season when he failed to clamp down on Fleetwood's persistent fouling and spoiling tactics. However, he recently refereed our game at Luton and got quite a bit of praise. I think he's typical of a number of NG referees in that if two teams try to play football he can handle the game perfectly well and indeed can enhance the spectacle. However he struggles badly if he's given a "difficult" game where some strong sanctions are needed to maintain control.
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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #22 on: Wed 08 May 2019 11:54 »
I can’t believe what I’ve just read!!

Please someone tell me it’s April fools day and this is all just a sick joke!!

Woolmer and Ward’s appointments are a disgrace and completely backs up what I’ve said all season that the best referees rarely get promoted or the games they deserve. The whole system in this country is still diabolical when it’s meant to be much fairer and balanced and it knocks me sick!

God knows how there’s even been a single positive comment about John Busby either... Some people should really watch more games and do more research before posting complete dross without any evidence to back their comment up!

I was almost with you re Ward and Woolmer but I've seen John Busby several times and in all bar one he was excellent. The other was average. That sort of ratio puts him quite high on the (short?) list of worthy candidates.

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #23 on: Wed 08 May 2019 17:38 »
My negative opinion of John Busby relates exactly to the reasons you weren’t impressed with him.

Extremely lenient and lacks authority. I saw him on the Charlton vs Accrington game this season and some of the disgraceful things the Accrington players did was quite shocking, hence why there were ugly scenes both during and after the game. His assistant bailed him out for the penalty but he allowed virtually every single player to confront and surround his assistant for well over a minute and didn’t even show one yellow card to a player and allowed the same at the final whistle.

His coach is Dermot Gallagher apparently, says it all then really.

I saw him at Rochdale v Portsmouth in September and he was excellent.


Mr. Busby had a bit of a shocker early in the season when he failed to clamp down on Fleetwood's persistent fouling and spoiling tactics. However, he recently refereed our game at Luton and got quite a bit of praise. I think he's typical of a number of NG referees in that if two teams try to play football he can handle the game perfectly well and indeed can enhance the spectacle. However he struggles badly if he's given a "difficult" game where some strong sanctions are needed to maintain control.
JohnCoyle's comments highlight why Mr Busby is a bad selection for the play-off leg at Tranmere.  If they play like their last visits to Tranmere, Forest Green will use cynical time-wasting tactics, feign injury and unless action is taken at an early stage by the referee, there is a risk of him losing control. Forest Green will play decent football in their home leg which is likely to be a better spectacle and given his refereeing style Mr Busby would be better suited to that game.

Would be delighted to be proved wrong of course.

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #24 on: Thu 09 May 2019 11:34 »
I tend to agree with the comments about Andy Woolmer. I wonder whether this will be his swan-song after 14 years on the list. Ditto Eddie Ilderton after 16 years (with a break). Long-serving Nigel Miller also bowed out after a playoff semi at Blackpool. I can think of no other reason why Andy should have secured this appointment.

I saw Matthew Donohue recently at Gresty Road and thought his performance was solid rather than spectacular. Good to see him getting an appointment, also John Busby and Michael Salisbury, both of whom seem destined for promotion soon.

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #25 on: Thu 09 May 2019 19:44 »
Donohue replaced by the card shark Breakspear.

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #26 on: Thu 09 May 2019 19:53 »
Massive decision made by Breakspear inside five mins Mansfield player brought down through on goal. For me it’s a red card no attempt to play ball

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #27 on: Fri 10 May 2019 09:39 »
I tend to agree with the comments about Andy Woolmer. I wonder whether this will be his swan-song after 14 years on the list. Ditto Eddie Ilderton after 16 years (with a break). Long-serving Nigel Miller also bowed out after a playoff semi at Blackpool. I can think of no other reason why Andy should have secured this appointment.


These matches are very important to the clubs involved.

They should not be given as a farewell gift to under-performing referees way past their best.
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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #28 on: Fri 10 May 2019 10:11 »
I tend to agree with the comments about Andy Woolmer. I wonder whether this will be his swan-song after 14 years on the list. Ditto Eddie Ilderton after 16 years (with a break). Long-serving Nigel Miller also bowed out after a playoff semi at Blackpool. I can think of no other reason why Andy should have secured this appointment.


These matches are very important to the clubs involved.

They should not be given as a farewell gift to under-performing referees way past their best.

I thought the Play-Offs were awarded to the best performers at the respective levels. If Andy Woolmer is considered one of the best performers in SG2 we should abandon all hope.

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Re: PlayOffs 2019
« Reply #29 on: Fri 10 May 2019 10:17 »
Donohue replaced by the card shark Breakspear.

Injury ?  Illness  ?  Anyone know why ?  Thanks.