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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #195 on: Sun 14 May 2023 11:02 »
So the semi-finals took place three weeks ago and the officials for the final are still to be announced.  In previous years, they were often "out" a couple of days after the semi-finals had taken place.

There are many RTR correspondents who are more "in the know" than me  - does anyone know what is (not) going on?

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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #196 on: Sun 14 May 2023 11:04 »
So the semi-finals took place three weeks ago and the officials for the final are still to be announced.  In previous years, they were often "out" a couple of days after the semi-finals had taken place.

There are many RTR correspondents who are more "in the know" than me  - does anyone know what is (not) going on?

I know nothing but if we're to guess I'd say they were waiting for the Tierney drama to die down, and if there were no dramas yesterday (?) I'd say that team with him Davies and Ledger will be announced pronto
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #197 on: Sun 14 May 2023 11:49 »
So the semi-finals took place three weeks ago and the officials for the final are still to be announced.  In previous years, they were often "out" a couple of days after the semi-finals had taken place.

There are many RTR correspondents who are more "in the know" than me  - does anyone know what is (not) going on?

The final is taking place a lot later than usual, So they're probably releasing the appointment later as well.

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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #198 on: Wed 17 May 2023 12:16 »
Confirmed on PGMOL Instagram.

Referee: Paul Tierney
Assistants: Neil Davies & Scott Ledger
4th: Peter Bankes
Reserve AR: Adrian Holmes
VARs: David Coote & Simon Long

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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #199 on: Wed 17 May 2023 12:19 »
Sadly this appointment is not made on merit. It's no coincidence all 3 gave up FIFA badges. Tierney was awful in his last 2 big 6 games as was Coote on VAR yet the get the cup final?

Meanwhile hooper gets nothing

Lets hope Tierney has a better FA cup final than his league cup one
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #200 on: Wed 17 May 2023 12:22 »
Interesting one congratulations to the team
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #201 on: Wed 17 May 2023 13:07 »
Good luck to the selected officials.

Hooper must have at least been in the conversation. Best official who hasn’t had the cup final before this season and was definitely deserving of it!

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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #202 on: Wed 17 May 2023 13:21 »
So it seems cup finals which always were appointed on merit are now subject to other criteria. As without a shadow of doubt Simon hooper has been our 3rd best referee this season by a long way , the top 2 have already received this appointment so Simon clearly should have been appointed. What possible plausible reason could have caused this clear and obvious error. I think this appointment should go to var for a review.
My views are my own and not that of rate the ref .
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #203 on: Wed 17 May 2023 14:10 »
I don't see the fuss. I know Hooper is the most deserving but Tierney has had a very very good season up until the Liverpool Spurs game which again wasn't disastrous. Also, Coote has come on in VAR and can I just mention Scott Ledger, who has made some extremely impressive calls when I've seen him this year.
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #204 on: Wed 17 May 2023 14:22 »
Congratulations to the full team
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #205 on: Wed 17 May 2023 14:43 »
Well done to those appointed. I'm glad that Scott Ledger has got the final as I think he's been a strong AR for a number of years and I know his lack of a cup final appointment has been remarked on before.

We obviously don't know what the merit table looks like, but as a general point it is an interesting question if the appointment should always go simply to the highest referee on the merit table not to have had the final yet or if other factors should be taken into account.

Were Probert in 2014 and Moss in 2015 both higher than Taylor/Oliver in the merit table that season? I'm not sure. But even if not I think it was reasonable to hold Taylor and Oliver back a few years because both were clearly building up their experience and weren't at their peak yet so it would have seemed a bit premature for them and you also want a referee to still have things to strive for rather than reaching too many milestones too early.

It feels to me like this year's final has come at a more natural point for Tierney to get it than Hooper. Tierney's been on the PL list for longer, has been a FIFA referee and has had experience of doing some of the biggest PL matches for 3 seasons or so, whereas Hooper is probably at the end of his first. I think I'm comfortable with Tierney's appointment therefore. Hopefully Hooper can maintain this level and develop a bit more experience and will have  a chance to do the final in a subsequent year.

Obviously it's a delicate balance as you can never be sure when a referee might lose form or get an injury or take a job in Saudi Arabia. And I think you could probably say it's different if referee A was 3rd in the merit table and referee B was 4th compared to if one was 3rd and the other was 15th.

But it feels like they're both probably in a similar ballpark. Tierney has had lots of the big head to heads this season like Hooper has done. And of course the season is still ongoing so the merit table presumably fluctuates and someone who was higher at the time of the FA Cup semi-finals might be lower now.   
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #206 on: Wed 17 May 2023 15:26 »
Confirmed on PGMOL Instagram.

Referee: Paul Tierney
Assistants: Neil Davies & Scott Ledger
4th: Peter Bankes
Reserve AR: Adrian Holmes
VARs: David Coote & Simon Long

Congratulations to the whole team.  I have they have a fantastic day and put in a performance worthy of the appointment. Good luck team ref.
Hajrá Lilák. Csak a Kispest. Hajrá Magyarok! Hajrá játékvezetői csapat! Soha ne add fel. Nincs sárga kérem!!! No Chris Kavanagh doesn't live in Ashton or even in the Greater Manchester area!!
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #207 on: Wed 17 May 2023 16:17 »
A very unsurprising referee appointment. Whether deserved or not I could not say but congratulations and I hope the ball runs kindly. A Lancashire Referee officiating two Greater Manchester teams and they all have to come down to London to do it, though to get the crowd capacity it's hard to know where else would suffice.

As the text runs " cast your bread upon the waters " and those who cast their FIFA Badges have certainly received their reward. Whether the events are connected is a matter of pure speculation but I know how my mind is speculating.
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #208 on: Wed 17 May 2023 22:09 »
Congratulations. FA cup final is traditionally appointed to next in line for service. Which have no problem with. Chris Kavanagh next year. Im more pleased scott ledger gets the appointment because he must have been close many seasons before. Good day all involved
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Re: Emirates FA Cup - 2022/2023
« Reply #209 on: Wed 17 May 2023 22:21 »
Prediction nxt year. Chris kav or stuart atwell. dan robathan defo with either adrian holmes or sian. 4th be coote. As to previous post atwell must be nxt in line. As kav and sian worked together often maybe 2025 for them with mainwaring