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« on: Sun 10 Apr 2022 08:43 »
I see this obnoxious individual has apologised for seemingly breaking a child’s phone in his anger after the match yesterday 😡.
My hatred of this prima Donna has just increased even more. I will leave it there as I may write something which I shouldn’t 🤬
I am sure the Ronaldo supporters will defend him - “heat of the moment”, “frustrating afternoon”, “emotions running high” etc - but I don’t buy into that.
All strutting and cheesy smiles when things went well v Spurs the other week but once again here we have the dark side to his nature.

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« Reply #1 on: Sun 10 Apr 2022 08:57 »
If that happened at half time, would the referee have been able to sent him off? I'm assuming as it's after the final whistle the referee can't punish him for it...

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« Reply #2 on: Sun 10 Apr 2022 10:15 »
If that happened at half time, would the referee have been able to sent him off? I'm assuming as it's after the final whistle the referee can't punish him for it...

He should be banned for 3 games

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« Reply #3 on: Sun 10 Apr 2022 10:38 »
If that happened at half time, would the referee have been able to sent him off? I'm assuming as it's after the final whistle the referee can't punish him for it...

He should be banned for 3 games

Should be more than just a football incident should be a trip to the magistrates, I’m sure if anyone here was recorded assaulting a disabled kid because of a bad day at work we’d be going there
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« Reply #4 on: Sun 10 Apr 2022 15:21 »
I see there is a police investigation - I hope the young autistic lad gets the justice that he deserves. 1st game for the poor kid as well. I don't care how big a star you are, that sort of behaviour is unacceptable.
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« Reply #5 on: Tue 12 Apr 2022 17:34 »
And having seen the incident Utd have decided he has no case to answer so will not be taking any action against him. It beggars belief but we were expecting anything different from this club?
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« Reply #6 on: Tue 12 Apr 2022 21:41 »
And having seen the incident Utd have decided he has no case to answer so will not be taking any action against him. It beggars belief but we were expecting anything different from this club?

Sadly not...
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« Reply #7 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 12:06 »
 Whilst I have no allegiance to United nor Ronaldo let’s all take a step back and have a look at the facts, and not the newspaper gossip! And let’s not listen to bitter opposition fans.

If one was a professional footballer who has had a limelight firmly placed on them since they were still a kid (bear enough 20 years) and after a very frustrating poor performance where you just want to get away, and yet you have someone stick a camera in your face, how would you feel. Funny how the mother mentioned the son was autistic AFTER the papers picked up the incident.

As someone famous once told me - s**t happens. This is the case in this, something bad happened in the heat of the moment. We’re all human. Of course, no one condones what Ronaldo has done and he himself has admitted he got it wrong. But he has apologised, and (according to the tabloid gossip) offered to buy a new phone and offered tickets for a United game as his guest.

It seems to me that whenever something bad happens now people are hell bent on getting as much fame and money out of it as possible, rightly or wrongly. It’s a nothing story and there are far more important things going on that this. Accept the apology and the new phone and move on!
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« Reply #8 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 15:15 »
Funny how the mother mentioned the son was autistic AFTER the papers picked up the incident.

What are the parents of autistic children meant to do - wear a T-shirt saying my child is autistic or perhaps have it tattooed on the child's forehead once they get formally diagnosed? Maybe she could have taken out an advert in the program - "I'm here tonight with an autistic child - here's a photo of us so you know what he looks like".  Why on earth would she be mentioning it to the press or anyone else BEFORE Ronaldo's disgraceful conduct? I ask simply as the mother of a child who was diagnosed as autistic at the age of 16 months old...
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« Reply #9 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 15:46 »
I have no sympathy for Ronaldo. It's all good when he is getting all the attention doing his stupid suiiiiiiiiiiii thing when he scores. He puts him self in a position with the media and as part of who he is, that he is bound to get some criticism at times and people hurling abuse. He needs to just ignore it and not rise to it. I think he should be punished with a ban for it.



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« Reply #10 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 16:48 »
Funny how the mother mentioned the son was autistic AFTER the papers picked up the incident.

What are the parents of autistic children meant to do - wear a T-shirt saying my child is autistic or perhaps have it tattooed on the child's forehead once they get formally diagnosed? Maybe she could have taken out an advert in the program - "I'm here tonight with an autistic child - here's a photo of us so you know what he looks like".  Why on earth would she be mentioning it to the press or anyone else BEFORE Ronaldo's disgraceful conduct? I ask simply as the mother of a child who was diagnosed as autistic at the age of 16 months old...

Of course they shouldn't, but it has nothing to do with this. It was the parent has created a story BECAUSE her son has autism and was the one who brought it up. We know the media love a story, particularly if one involves a famous footballer. If the son wasn't autistic would the story have created as much coverage? Of course it wouldn't.

Why can't the parent accept the apology and the offer a new phone - why do they think they deserve more than that?

EDIT- in response to Jack Samuel as I don't know how to quote two separate posts.

Why should he be banned? Of course he can be criticised. But what gives people the right to stick a phone in someone's face like that - celebrity or not. I wouldn't like it!
All he has done is knock a phone out of a kid's hand. Are people on here really saying that they haven't done something to someone in the heat of a moment? I would say everyone has
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« Reply #11 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 18:27 »
Funny how the mother mentioned the son was autistic AFTER the papers picked up the incident.

What are the parents of autistic children meant to do - wear a T-shirt saying my child is autistic or perhaps have it tattooed on the child's forehead once they get formally diagnosed? Maybe she could have taken out an advert in the program - "I'm here tonight with an autistic child - here's a photo of us so you know what he looks like".  Why on earth would she be mentioning it to the press or anyone else BEFORE Ronaldo's disgraceful conduct? I ask simply as the mother of a child who was diagnosed as autistic at the age of 16 months old...

Of course they shouldn't, but it has nothing to do with this. It was the parent has created a story BECAUSE her son has autism and was the one who brought it up. We know the media love a story, particularly if one involves a famous footballer. If the son wasn't autistic would the story have created as much coverage? Of course it wouldn't.

Why can't the parent accept the apology and the offer a new phone - why do they think they deserve more than that?

EDIT- in response to Jack Samuel as I don't know how to quote two separate posts.

Why should he be banned? Of course he can be criticised. But what gives people the right to stick a phone in someone's face like that - celebrity or not. I wouldn't like it!
All he has done is knock a phone out of a kid's hand. Are people on here really saying that they haven't done something to someone in the heat of a moment? I would say everyone has

I tell you if I did that I would be fired instantly. As a professional footballer, especially someone like Ronaldo you should expect to be filmed while on a and leaving the football pitch/ ground

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« Reply #12 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 18:30 »
Of course they shouldn't, but it has nothing to do with this. It was the parent has created a story BECAUSE her son has autism and was the one who brought it up. We know the media love a story, particularly if one involves a famous footballer. If the son wasn't autistic would the story have created as much coverage? Of course it wouldn't.

Have you ever dealt with an autistic child? I'll assume not by your lack of understanding. It has everything to do with this. The impact can very far reaching when the child is autistic.

When my son was about 5/6 a supply teacher told him at school that he had worked his socks off, it took myself and his school over 6 months to finally convince him that it had been a compliment about how hard he had worked in that particular lesson and that the supply teacher wasn't accusing him of taking his socks off in class. The supply teacher must have apologised to him a thousand times over for using the expression - he couldn't accept the apology because he didn't understand why the teacher had said what she had.  He spent those 6 months obsessing over the fact that he had his socks on, literally showing his teachers every 5 mins that he was wearing them, same at home showing me he was wearing his socks. It kept him awake at night, me too as if he was awake so was I, he got very tearful when trying to get him dressed for school because of his socks. A simple compliment, not worded correctly for his understanding and due to his literal thinking caused 6 months of stress and heartache for my son, his school and the supply teacher who said it.  My son is classed as high functioning but can go into a meltdown at seemingly the slightest thing because of his literal black & white view of the world. Silly little things like shoes - he will only wear the exact same shoes, thankfully his feet don't grow any more but like all of us he wears his shoes out and if I don't buy the exact same shoes he won't wear them, end of story for him. Thankfully his choice of shoe is the simple lace up canvas shoe (like plimsolls) so likely to stay around for many years yet, even so I have about 30 pairs stashed away at the back of my cupboard, just in case! My other kids would have taken the compliment or if they didn't understand it was a compliment they'd have asked, accepted my explanation and the teachers apology for the misunderstanding and it would have been done & dusted. It took about 2 weeks before we could even work out where his sudden obsession with his socks still being on his feet came from, he wasn't able to verbalise it.

Neither of us know exactly how this kid has dealt with the aftermath, only his mother will know that, she is the one having to deal with it but I certainly have empathy with her and what utter carnage she might now be facing, having been there, done that and got the T-shirt on far too many occasions since my son was born. Don't assume he has the mental capacity to understand the apology, don't assume it all makes sense to him, don't assume he knows this was an utterly stupid, hopefully one off, reaction and don't assume he is not still trying to process it all.

It was not the parent that created the story - it was Ronaldo by his conduct. Don't blame the victim, blame the person who caused the issue in the first place and that was not the young lad involved or his mother, it's the famous footballer who thinks he can do whatever he likes, whenever he likes then smile sweetly and say sorry and it will all be forgiven and forgotten.
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« Reply #13 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 20:42 »
Of course they shouldn't, but it has nothing to do with this. It was the parent has created a story BECAUSE her son has autism and was the one who brought it up. We know the media love a story, particularly if one involves a famous footballer. If the son wasn't autistic would the story have created as much coverage? Of course it wouldn't.

Have you ever dealt with an autistic child? I'll assume not by your lack of understanding. It has everything to do with this. The impact can very far reaching when the child is autistic.

When my son was about 5/6 a supply teacher told him at school that he had worked his socks off, it took myself and his school over 6 months to finally convince him that it had been a compliment about how hard he had worked in that particular lesson and that the supply teacher wasn't accusing him of taking his socks off in class. The supply teacher must have apologised to him a thousand times over for using the expression - he couldn't accept the apology because he didn't understand why the teacher had said what she had.  He spent those 6 months obsessing over the fact that he had his socks on, literally showing his teachers every 5 mins that he was wearing them, same at home showing me he was wearing his socks. It kept him awake at night, me too as if he was awake so was I, he got very tearful when trying to get him dressed for school because of his socks. A simple compliment, not worded correctly for his understanding and due to his literal thinking caused 6 months of stress and heartache for my son, his school and the supply teacher who said it.  My son is classed as high functioning but can go into a meltdown at seemingly the slightest thing because of his literal black & white view of the world. Silly little things like shoes - he will only wear the exact same shoes, thankfully his feet don't grow any more but like all of us he wears his shoes out and if I don't buy the exact same shoes he won't wear them, end of story for him. Thankfully his choice of shoe is the simple lace up canvas shoe (like plimsolls) so likely to stay around for many years yet, even so I have about 30 pairs stashed away at the back of my cupboard, just in case! My other kids would have taken the compliment or if they didn't understand it was a compliment they'd have asked, accepted my explanation and the teachers apology for the misunderstanding and it would have been done & dusted. It took about 2 weeks before we could even work out where his sudden obsession with his socks still being on his feet came from, he wasn't able to verbalise it.

Neither of us know exactly how this kid has dealt with the aftermath, only his mother will know that, she is the one having to deal with it but I certainly have empathy with her and what utter carnage she might now be facing, having been there, done that and got the T-shirt on far too many occasions since my son was born. Don't assume he has the mental capacity to understand the apology, don't assume it all makes sense to him, don't assume he knows this was an utterly stupid, hopefully one off, reaction and don't assume he is not still trying to process it all.

It was not the parent that created the story - it was Ronaldo by his conduct. Don't blame the victim, blame the person who caused the issue in the first place and that was not the young lad involved or his mother, it's the famous footballer who thinks he can do whatever he likes, whenever he likes then smile sweetly and say sorry and it will all be forgiven and forgotten.

I’m not blaming the victim - far from it! Ronaldo has done wrong everyone knows that including himself - hence why he has apologised and offered financial compensation with a new phone. I don’t condone his actions nor have I ever condoned them in either of my posts thus far. When I was at university I used to be a support person for people with learning difficulties and special needs so whilst it might not be autism directly I do have some first hand knowledge.

I am trying to explain why Ronaldo did what he did. Despite his celebrity status he does have the right to try abs hide his face from a camera if he wants to. I feel sorry for the kid who is the innocent party in all this. All I’m saying is this wouldn’t even be in the public eye if his mother 1. Hadn’t gone to the papers; 2. Someone revealing the kid was autistic, which the mother has now jumped on in order to drag the story out a lot longer. His mother should also be teaching him why it’s not ok to stick a phone in someone’s face like that and She shouldn’t be using his autism as an excuse to try and get more financial reward out of Ronaldo.
But the things people will do for any kind of exposure …

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« Reply #14 on: Wed 13 Apr 2022 21:18 »
The kid had his phone facing down apparently, according to media reports, not up in his face - several around him with their phones held high, many of whom filmed the incident, because they were filming him, and put it on social media. It was in the public domain before she said anything, the press had picked it up from Twitter. It was already trending on Twitter and on media outlets before the kid was even identified. She may well have come forward and said yes it was my son but the press already had it by that stage. They'd got it before the kids phone had even hit the floor - did you not notice all the press photographers there snapping away?  You are making a lot of assumptions about the mother and that is so wrong, there is NO blame on her at all. Stop blaming her - you say you're not but your negative comments about her say the exact opposite. She is understandably upset and dealing with the impact on her son, whatever that might be, along with media attention she is not used to.  Have you seen the photos of the bruising on the kids hand? That is assault, no ifs or buts about it.  Had you or I done that to him, we'd have been, quite rightly, carted off down to the police station instantly.

There is only 1 person in the wrong here & no you haven't condoned his behaviour at all, but you are making a lot more of a fuss about the mother than you have about his actions. Actions he did in front of several press photographers and hundreds of supporters. There is no explanation for what he did, there is no excuse for what he did. Blaming the mother and not just the one and only person who is to blame for any of this is why people like him think they can get away with this behaviour...
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